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Friday, December 14, 2012

Lilian Winifred Marsden-2's 1958 residence


From Canadian voters list, 1958


Residing at 174 Langford Ave., York East, Ontario

  • Burbidge, Eric, caretaker [Eric Burbidge-1]
  • Burbidge, Mrs. C. G. [Georgina May Johnson-1]
  • Hyman, Henry, retired [Henry Hyman-2]
  • Hyman, Mrs. Lillian [Lilian Winifred Marsden-2]
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Lilian Winifred Marsden-2's 1957 residence


From Canadian voters list, 1957

Residing at 174 Langford Ave., York East, Ontario

  • Burbidge, Eric, B. of E. caretaker [Eric Burbidge-1]
  • Burbidge, Mrs. Georgina [Georgina May Johnson-1]
  • Hyman, Henry, retired [Henry Hyman-2]
  • Hyman, Mrs. Lillian [Lilian Winifred Marsden-2]
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1953 Lilian Winifred Marsden-2's residence


From the Canadian voter lists, 1953

Residing at 174 Langford Ave., York East, Ontario.

  • Burbridge [sic], Eric, caretaker [Eric Burbidge-1]
  • Burbridge [sic], Georgina [Georgina May Johnson-1]
  • Johnson, Lillian [Lilian Winifred Marsden-2]


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Thursday, December 13, 2012

Lilian Winifred Marsden-2's cemetery and third marriage


The following email comes from another subscriber to Ancestry.com who contacted me asking about his Grandmother, Lillian[sic] Marsden.  From the information in the email, it is clear we have a match and discover that Lilian Winifred Marsden-2 was even married a third time. Georgina May Johnson-1 proves to be the key. There are also at least two more children in the Johnson family.

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23 November 2012

"My Grandmother Lillian Winifred Marsden-2 did have a daughter Georgina May [Georgina May Johnson-1]. Georgina married an Eric Burbidge-1 and adopted two boys Donny and Kevin. [Donny Burbidge-0, Kevin Burbidge-0]


Lillian (Winnie) had three other children Dora [Dora Johnson-1], George William [George William Johnson-1], and Winifred [Winifred Annie Collier-1? adopted Johnson?.
Lillian purchased a family plot in the Mount Pleasant Cemetery [in Toronto] in 1951 to buried her husband George Walter Johnson-2 (my grandfather). In total buried in the plot are the follow:

  • George Walter Johnson-2 who died in 1951
  • Lillian Winnifred Hynman [sic, "Hyman" meant, see below] (nee Johnson [sic, "Marsden" meant, see below]) who died in 1969
  • Eric Burbidge-1 who died in 1991
  • Georgina Burbidge [Georgina Johnson-1] who died in 2006
  • George William Johnson-1 who died in 2006
  • Anna Mildred Johnson (nee Brown) who died 2012"

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Presumably Anna Mildred Brown-1 was the wife of George William Johnson-1.

From  Canadian voter records at Ancestry.com it was possible to confirm the correct spelling of Lillian Winnifred Marsden-2's third husband, Henry Hyman-2.

Note: Mystery about daughter Winifred listed above--whether that is Winifred Annie Collier-1 b. 7 Apr 1912 to Samuel Collier-2 and Lilian Winifred Marsden-2?

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Georgina May Johnson-1, obituary


Georgina May Johnson-1

Toronto Star
Monday, 23 October 2006

Burbidge, Georgina May -- Passed away peacefully at the Avalon Care Centre, Orangeville on Saturday October 14, 2006; Georgina Johnston[sic] in her 93rd year; wife of the late Eric Burbidge-1; loved mother of Kevin (Sandy) and Don (Cathy)... 

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George Marsden-2 "Family Memoir"


Through Ancestry.com I came across two family trees that give us information to track down Samuel Collier-2's first wife Lilian Winifred Marsden-2, after they separated. 
In this post I give the information from the first tree "Marsden Family Tree". This post has a lot of information. It definitively links the Lilian Winifred Marsden-2 of this family tree with Georgina May Burbidge née Johnson as well as with Lilian Winifred Marsden-2's brother George Marsden-2 and cousin Bert Marsden-2.


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The daughter of Jonathan Marsden-2 (a younger brother of Lilian Winifred Marsden-2) who emigrated to Australia wrote me the following emails:

[from 4 Jan 2011]
"Hi Bud, yes both Lilian (known to me as Auntie Winnie) [Lilian Winifred Marsden-2 and George [George Marsden-2] were known to me - Winnie by phone only but I met George several times when I was young. Winnie's daughter Georgina [Georgina May Johnson-1] was a regular correspondent until a few years ago. My dad Jonathan-2 was born just before George-2, then Winnie-2, set out for Canada to make their fortunes. There was another sister Una Christiana-2  who was born in 1905 but died at 14 months from scarlet fever. George Marsden-3 Senior died in 1924 from pneumonia and Jessy [Jessie Emmer Nodder-3]died in 1911 from ovarian cancer."

[from 15 Jan 2011] 
 "I am still in shock at discovering all these developments [i.e., that her Auntie Winnie-2 had been married to Samuel Collier-2 and had three daughters with him], none of which were EVER spoken of in my family, even though George Marsden-2 typed out what he knew of our family history in about 1980, before he died in California (where he lived after his emigration from Canada after WW1). I'm sure (though it is probably my childhood perception) that Winnie was Lilian Winifred, his elder sister,to whom he was very close, and whom Georgina (always known as Cousin Georgina) was named for. ...When we had to admit [my mother] to a nursing home two years ago I went through her papers (though they were in a dreadful mess) and found a Xmas card from Georgina in 2001. She was Georgina May Burbidge (her married name) and lived in Orangeville, Ontario. I have subsequently found her obituary in the Toronto Star for 23/10/2006, giving her previous name as "Johnston"[sic, "Johnson" is correct]. She had a memorial tree planted by her family at the Dods and McNair Funeral Home in Orangeville. I have not been able to find anything of her birth (as she was 92 when she died, that would make her born around 1914) as Ontario records stop at 1912 - so who is she?! ... I simply don't know, and as everyone is deceased I can't ask them. By the way, George Marsden-3 Snr remarried after Jessie Emma's death and there were two further children, Stanley and Doreen, who emigrated to Australia around the same time as my father Jonathan, in the early 1930's, and were well-known to me."

[24 May 2011]
"...the relevant bit of Uncle George's [George Marsden-2] memoirs, though it is very brief; I've added clarifying detail in brackets. 
'Now, about our father's side of the family, I know surprisingly little about this. I went to Canada in 1908 and had my 15th birthday on the ship. When I was a little boy, living in Wandsworth (London), our grandfather, Jonathan [Jonathan Marsden-4], lived with us. He was alone, and I never knew his wife or wives. (Both had predeceased him). I know that our father was born on the edge of Marston Moor, in Yorkshire. (this is incorrect, as all Jonathan's children were born in London). There were four brothers in all, and one sister, Frances [Frances Marsden-3]. (Frances never married). The brothers were Jack (Jonathan James Marsden-3), Fred [Fred Marsden-3], Frank [Frank Marsden-3] and George Marsden-3.There was another sister, Sissy (Gertrude Marsden-3) who must have been of a second marriage (Daughter of Jonathan's second Marriage to Hannah [Hannah Newbold-3]) because she was the same age as my sister Winnie, who was christened Lillian Winifred. Jack had a couple of daughters (migrated to Canada with his second wife and two little girls when he was 65) Fred had seven children, 3 boys and 4 girls (Migrated to Canada with his wife Nellie and nephew Bert [Bert Marsden-2], who was Frank's eldest son). Frank had 3 boys, and George [George Marsden-3] (George's father, my grandfather) had 6 children. One died, Una Christiana-2, at age 1.I might mention that all Fred's children are in Canada, all Jack's are also in Canada (Jack died in Canada about 7 years after he migrated). Frank's are all dead but their offspring are all in and around Bognor Regis, England. As you know George's children are spread all over the place, Canada, USA and Australia.'

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